Podcasts
These are podcasts we’ve been on recently
Laura Giles
Stephen was on the Laura Giles show about Paranormal PTSD Recovery – “Something Came to Visit Him”.
Laura Giles was so wonderful and graciously offered to do some “entrainment” using movements on me to help regress me to be able to remember some of my black out periods. The times when I believe I was abducted by the tall Grey aliens. I picked one of my abduction incidents, the one when I was 8 or 9 years old. I heard a noise in the middle of the night coming from the living room. I got out of bed to find out what it was. As I was walking down the dark hallway I became terrified, my heart was pounding. Just as I was about to turn into the living room and see what was there, I blacked out. Laura was able to take me further down the hallway, but I was still unable to see into the living room.
Red Pill Cartel
We were guests on the Red Pill Cartel podcast with host Davy Wavy. He was a great host with great questions and we had one of our most engaging conversations. We spoke for about 2 hours and felt like we could have done another 2. We started with our UFO sightings. Stephen has had five and I have seen two. Then Stephen related his family’s alien abduction experiences. Including his brother Phillip’s encounter with a tall Grey alien in his bedroom. Stephen talked about his bizarre encounter with a 6-foot-tall being of blue/white light when all the coins in his pocket became magnetized. After that we started discussing our theories about WHO is flying the UFOs in our skies and what their motivations are.
Studio Sinister Podcast
We were guests on the Studio Sinister Podcast for the second time. We did a very detailed in depth interview with Farrah and she wanted us to come back a week later to do a part 2 with her co-host Courtney.
The press release by read, “What if the spirits of past inhabitants could still influence the present? Join us for a hair-raising episode of Studio Sinister, as we bring back the riveting Leslie and Stephen Shaw, for Part 2 and this time my best friend and co-host, Courtney is able to join us. We kick things off by recounting the Shaws’ eerie experiences while remodeling the historic Holly Hill House on Catalina Island, featuring a ghostly encounter. Get ready to be enthralled by the chilling tale of Jenny H. Giddings and the mysterious events surrounding this iconic house.
Have you ever wondered if ancient flood myths have a basis in scientific fact? Our conversation takes a fascinating turn as we explore ancient flood myths and their links to extinction events from 13,000 years ago. We discuss theories involving the Coriolis effect, celestial impacts, and their massive implications on human technological advancement. Shifting gears, we delve into the intersection of meditation, chakra work, and brain functionality, pondering how spiritual practices influence neurochemicals and brain states, and considering the impact of modern technology on children’s natural brain development.
Curious about the connections between extraterrestrial beings and ancient civilizations? We tackle intriguing theories about megalithic structures, potential alien influences, and historical incidents involving supposed alien encounters. From genetic modification to the motives behind alien hybridization programs, we leave no stone unturned. Personal accounts of family abductions and extraterrestrial activities provide a gripping conclusion to our discussion. Join our community of sinister seekers on social media and immerse yourself in a night of captivating storytelling and mind-bending discussions that promise to give your ears an unforgettable listen.”
All Things Unexplained
We were guests on All Things Unexplained with hosts CJ Dearinger, Dr. Mounce and Smitty. We had a wonderful talk with them. We could have gone on for hours, it was so interesting. They wanted to hear our experiences first and I shared my first UFO sighting and Stephen described his alien abduction experiences. We talked about everything, Admiral Byrd’s encounters and how it helped us form our theory. We spoke about the Great Flood and the connection to the UFO phenomenon. We talked at length about the hybrid alien breeding program, and our theory that these beings are close enough cousins that they can breed with us.
Studio Sinister Podcast
We were guests on the Studio Sinister Podcast. We did two episodes and this is number 1.
We only had Farrah hosting the first interview, and she was so amazed by our story, she scheduled another show so her co-host Courtney could also talk with us. Farrah asked about music and how it relates to the humming sound UFOs make, and Stephen related his recurring UFO dream where he always hears the loud humming sound as the UFO approaches. We talked about astral projecting and how our chakra work gave us the ability. We covered my first sighting, always life changing. Stephen spoke about his alien abduction experiences, and his brother Philllip’s. We talked about our theories concerning WHO is flying the UFOs in our skies, about the Travis Walton experience and how it started with the Greys and then the Nordics came in, backing up our theory that the Nordics and Greys work together, though we think the Greys are used as a slave race. We talked about “The Hair of the Alien” analysis, how it’s human hair, but mutated human hair, which explains how they can breed with us so easily. We talked about how women are being taken, impregnated, and four months later the fetus stolen. Sometimes years later the women are introduced to their hybrid alien children. We finished with the connection between the paranormal and the astral plane, how sleep paralysis is actually a moment of power; since you can easily astral project when in this state.
Unidentified Alien Podcast
We were guests on the Unidentified Alien Podcast with host Stephen Diener. We talked about our personal UFO sightings and Stephen’s experiences with the alien abduction phenomenon. We spoke at length about our theories that the UFOs flying in our skies are controlled by a population of humans that split away from our race 13,000 years ago. And we talked about the book “The Hair of the Alien” backing up our theories with DNA evidence.
We talked about my first UFO, Stephen spoke of the invisible cat and his cluster of five bizarre days, and Phillip’s cluster of three alien encounters, then spoke about Admiral Byrd and Operation Highjump and the meeting with the Arianni. And why they are abducting Caucasians mostly, because their population has become less viable, we spoke briefly about Hiawatha and the Younger Dryas Comet being the cause of the nanodiamonds and the great flood and this is what caused the separation of our race into those who kept their technology and culture in tact and the rest of surface people that were almost wiped out, and how they eventually took pity on us and sending gods to re-teach us.
We also spoke about more recent topics like the Congressional hearings and pilots saying they are following us every time we go out on maneuvers and their end game of integration using their breeding program to reintegrate with our species.
The Awakened Podcast
We were guests on The Awakened Podcast with Brad Lail, and our episode is dropping very soon. We had a really nice talk, we touched on so many things. We started our first UFO, seen together in 2005. It was my first and Stephen’s fourth. We went through Stephen’s Grey alien abduction experiences and those of his other family members. We talked about our Kundalini raising work and how it facilitated the ability to astral project, and how the astral realm is so troublesome for Stephen. We determined that families are targeted for abduction and how they seem to be harvesting a needed product, instead of just taking scientific samples.
We discussed the most worrying aspect of the abduction phenomenon, is how we think they are sometimes stealing people and NOT putting them back. We talked about the Arianni and Admiral Byrd and how the phenomenon started following our military in WWII. We talked about The Great Flood actually happening and a celestial impact being the cause. We spoke about underground bases being sunk into mountains with holographic duck blinds that open with UFOs flying in and out.
Brad spoke about invoking the name of Jesus to cause the phenomenon to stop. I think this might be true in that we can ditch the hostile beings in the astral realm by raising to a higher vibrational level; places we can go, but they cannot.
Bare Trapped Podcast
We were guests on The Bare Trapped Podcast with hosts Paul and Jay. We had the best talk with these guys and Stephen had a good time joking about English terms and making them laugh. Stephen’s parents are from Manchester and Oldham and are crosstown rivals to the Yorkshire guys, so we started with some funny trash talk banter.
We started with some of our bizarre experiences, but quickly dove into our theory that the UFOs are being flown by a human splinter group. We spoke about the Greys being really close cousins to us, closer than the chimps, with the same skeletal structure as us and the same musculature, and how the Nordics are indistinguishable from tall human Swedes, and Valiant Thor was a red-haired Caucasian man. This is why they’re taking mostly Caucasians, because THEY are a Caucasian branch. We pointed out that they are taking a disproportionately high number of green-eyed people, also Rh-negative blood types and extra Bask people. We talked about “The Hair of the Alien” book proving the aliens are actually human, but mutated humans. These guys really started to get it.
I went into the Younger Dryas Comet being the cause of The Great Flood. We spoke about Frasier’s book of 500 flood myths, and how there are 1200 of them now, 1200 Noah stories. Then we spoke about our theory that this was the incident that separated our species into two, like in the movie Deep Impact. They had the same problem, a killer asteroid coming and they came up with the idea of digging deep underground arks to survive. We think this is something like what really happened. Those who survived the cataclysm with their technology and culture intact, and the rest of us poor surface people were just screwed. We said we liked how our theory is the simplest explanation. Like applying Occam’s Razor to the UFO evidence and no theoretical physics is required for our theory to work, no faster-than light travel, no wormholes, no interdimensional travel, no time travel, they are just here, sharing our solar system with us, sharing the planet. We talked about the many stories about populations going underground like the Tuatha De Denan in Ireland and the ancient Druids in England and Scotland. Why? Why go underground? Oh there is a killer comet on the way, OK that’s a good reason.
Then we finished with a bunch of Stephen’s family experiences…
Talk Spirit
Psychic medium Ginny H. had us on her Talk Spirit Podcast. We started with Stephen’s ghost sighting and the Holly Hill House post reel we made. He told her all about it and our research finding out who the ghost was.
I mentioned my first UFO, which was Stephen’s fourth, as being my reason to write the book. The round white light that just hovered in front of us before instantly taking off at 20,000 mph (my guess). Stephen spoke about the family spirit guide Ole Glegley and the invisible cat, and he spoke about his alien abduction experiences, especially his cluster of five straight days of strange paranormal activity. I spoke about Phillip’s cluster of three being so important because, during the last of the three incidents, he saw a Grey Alien, the first time a family member actually saw their real abductor’s face.
We spoke about the alien abduction phenomenon running in families, how they find a strain that meets their particular criteria, then take the family again and again, then start taking the kids and grandkids.
We went into Stephen’s family background. The women in one branch of his family have all been automatic writers for four generations. We spoke about tai chi being how Stephen originally opened his Chakras and how he started astral projecting. Then I spoke about how astral projection was fun for me, but it was almost always scary for Stephen, like his tormentor was just on the other side of the veil, waiting for Stephen to enter the astral realm.
Stephen spoke about how they use telepathy and how the brain thinks in symbology. We touched on our theory about the aliens really being close cousins of ours that were separated from us by a cataclysm that took place 13,000 years ago.
Behind the Veil
We were guests on the “Behind the Veil” podcast with host Mike Hughes. He is a great host and we had a very stimulating conversation about our theories about WHO is flying the UFOs in our skies. We talked about nanodiamonds proving that there was a celestial impact 13,000 years ago and it was likely to be the cause of The Great Flood and our belief that this cataclysm separated the human race into two groups, those who escaped the destruction and kept their knowledge and technology and those of us left on the surface who were almost completely wiped out.
Chasing Prophecy
We were guests on Chasing Prophecy with Jennie Nicassio and Tom our of New Orleans. We focused on Stephen and his family’s alien abduction experiences which fit well with the spooky theme of the podcast. We believe the alien abduction phenomenon is a real life horror story, especially since we believe the aliens are taking people and sometimes not returning them. The thought of our missing persons dying on metal tables, surrounded by alien faces while unable to move is worthy of a horror film.
Vestiges after Dark
We were guests on “Vestiges after Dark” with host Bryan D. Ouellette, who referred to us as “passionate ufologists with a wealth of knowledge in the field.” We had a great discussion spanning ancient history, human evolution, UFO pilots, cattle mutilations, alien abduction and their hybrid breeding program.
Ouch…Was That a Ghost? Podcast
We were guests on the “Ouch…Was That a Ghost?” podcast with host LIss. Her co-host Mike was unavailable at the time. She bought and read our book before the podcast and she said prior to reading it she didn’t know much about the UFO phenomenon, but she learned a lot from our book and really enjoyed it. We hear this a lot, that the book is well researched and very informative. We were only her second UFO podcast, she covered the Kecksburg incident where a bell-shaped UFO was seen by a lot of people until the government collected it and disappeared it.
Where the Weird Ones Are
We were guests on “Where the Weird Ones Are” with host Kevin Sapiel Jr. he was a terrific host with great questions. I feel like we did well on the show articulating our theories about UFOS and the motivations of the beings who are flying them.
It’s Not You, It’s Me Podcast
Laura Giles had us as guests on her “It’s Not You, It’s Me” podcast. Laura was more interested in our personal paranormal experiences and we love talking about those. Stephen spoke at length about his family’s alien abduction experiences and we talked about our UFO sightings. Stephen has seen 5 and I have seen 2.
Paranormal Misfits Podcast
We had a great interview on the Paranormal Misfits Podcast. Host Chrissy also invited another podcast Paranormal Lovers Felicia and Ian to join us.
Alien Talk Podcast
We were guests on the Alien Talk Podcast and had a great conversation about our theories on WHO are flying the UFOs in our airspace and what they want from us.
Conspire A Theory
We were guests with Chris Holm on Conspire a Theory at 1 p.m. today and he’s already posted the interview. See the link in our highlights. We had a great conversation about our UFO and alien theories. Chris was more interested in our theories than in our personal experiences so this podcast is more about WHO we think are flying the UFOs in our airspace and what their motivations are.
Sirens of the Supernatural
We were guests on the Sirens of the Supernatural podcast last Friday and the episode is going to drop tomorrow evening (April 5). Mother and daughter team Rhonda and Lindsey did a great interview, and their cousin Jody is the show’s producer.
Bizarre Encounters
We were guests on the Bizarre Encounters podcast with host Shaun Jones. It was such a pleasure to talk with such a knowledgeable host.
Inquires of our Reality
We were guests on the Inquires of our Reality. We had a great discussion with host Shaun Jones and his cohost Orin.
Crazy Rich Neighbors
We joined Tiffany and Mia on their Crazy Rich Neighbors podcast from South Florida. We had so much fun with these lovely ladies. They were so gracious and they truly enjoyed listening to our scary experiences.
UFO Encounters with Jim Harold
UFO Encounters with Jim Harold welcomed us as guests. It was such a great honor to talk with the famous radio host and personality.
Induced Fear
We were recently guests on the Induced Fear Podcast entitled UFO Sightings, Bloodline Abductions, & Alien Hybrids with Leslie and Stephen Shaw.
Real Life Sci-Fi
We were guests on the Real Life Sci-Fi Podcast with Wade and Willy. It was an interesting format, Wade is the skeptic and Willy is the believer. It makes for a stimulating conversation, where we had to defend our theories.
ParaPeculiar
Our talk on ParaPeculiar Podcast with host Damien was very engaging! He asked a lot of questions and really challenged our assertions. It was good to be challenged and we feel our theories held up well. On his post, Damien said, “We talked for a little over two hours about everything from UFOS, alien abductions, ghosts and even got to talk about civilizations living inside the Earth.”
Galactic Heartbeats
We did a nice show with Galactic Heartbeats with Bright Star and Dr. Raediant, a Joshua Tree-based podcast. They bought our book at Space Cowboy Books in Joshua Tree from our friend and fellow author Jean-Paul L. Garnier, so they were very familiar with our theories.
I Came With Fire Podcast
Mind Escape
The Rabbit Hole
We were guests on The Rabbit Hole podcast with Dani Mercy. She had us on as guests for her second anniversary show. She normally doesn’t have guests but she started with us. We are so honored to participate in this milestone episode.
The Sabbath At Midnight Podcast
The Sabbath At Midnight Podcast With host Domenic Leonel and Lionel Tavares, with their background in Clinical Psychology/School of Divinity, Writer (book coming) and podcasters.
Our hosts were very curious and wanted to know everything so we talked a little bit about everything including the Anunnaki, the brown dwarf Nibiru, circles, the alien abduction phenomenon, their bizarre breeding program and underground bases.
We’re All Psychic
We had a great conversation with Lisa and Misty on the We’re All Psychic podcast. I think they were sincerely impressed with our theories and we had a terrific conversation. We focused a lot on Stephen’s very psychic family and how we believe the aliens abducting people use psychic abilities as one of their criteria of selecting the families they prey upon. We highly recommend them as hosts; they were wonderful.
Let’s Get Freaky
We spoke with Tommy Cullum on his “Lets Get Freaky!” podcast.
The Bump Podcast
We joined The Bump Podcast with host Bo Kennedy. Bo did a terrific interview and we were good too, if I do say so. We discussed our book “Who They Are: And What They’re Up To” about WHO is flying the UFOS in our skies, our ufo sightings, and Stephen and his family’s alien abduction experiences.
The Witching Hours
We were on the Witching Hours Podcast –It was hosted by the Giant of the Frost Jeremy and Jenny. They were terrific hosts and we had a great talk about the alien abduction phenomenon.
Grimerica Podcast
We were guests on the Grimerica Podcast in mid December with host Graham Dunlop. Graham is a great host. We talked about our UFO sightings and Stephen’s family and their alien abductions. Then we were able to discuss our theories about UFOs, aliens and what is really going on.
Let’s Find Out
We appeared on the “Let’s Find Out” podcast with host Diego Raf. We discussed our UFO sightings, Stephen’s abduction experiences and those of his family and our theories about WHO are flying the UFOs in our airspace and what their motivations are.
AstroBen Podcast
We were guests on the AstroBen Podcast with host Ben Gamble.
We had a great discussion about our book, “Who They Are: And What They’re Up To.”
Paranormally Crytid Podcast
We had a great conversation today with podcaster Cody Polos of Paranormally Cryptid Podcast. We discussed our book “Who They Are: And What They’re Up To” by Leslie and Stephen Shaw. We talked about our UFO sightings, Stephen’s abduction experiences and our theories about WHO is flying the UFOs in our skies.
Alien Strand Podcast
We were guests on the Alien Strand Podcast with host Donald Ledesma. This was one of the best shows we’ve done. The host is terrific and has been doing this for five years. We discussed a lot of the concepts in our book and related a lot of our personal UFO sightings and Stephen’s family’s abduction incidents. Then we starting talking about our theories as to WHO is flying the UFOs in our skies and what they’re after.
Mysterious Radio
Our Mysterious Radio podcast with K-Town has been posted. She was a terrific host and we are proud of the interview. Enjoy friends. We talked about our book “Who They Are: And What They’re Up To” and talked about our theories as to WHO are flying the UFOs in our skies and what are their motivations.
Tinfoil Tales
Our latest podcast with host Brandon.
What If They’re Wrong
We were guests on the “What If They’re Wrong” podcast hosted by Jeremiah Dorph with whom we discussed our UFO book “Who They Are: And What They Are Up To.”
We had a great, like-minded conversation about our theories on alien abduction and the UFO phenomenon and the connection to ancient megalithic architecture and the Great Flood. Our book has four chapters on the Great Flood and the Hiawatha asteroid impact that caused it.
Jeremiah has actually traveled to Peru twice and met with Jason Martell. We are super jealous.
For more information, visit our website at whotheyarebook.com.
UFO Chronicals Podcast
We are guests on The UFO Chronicles Podcast with Nik Hunter.
Listen to “Ep.248 Who They Are And What They’re Up To” on Spreaker.